I'm not surprised. Kara only used her model during Fashion Week while the others had extra PR girls. I wished she would have show them her personal style infused with the garment because she could've been saved. Chloe's dress was just so-so. Great color, bad seams. I thought Santino's gown could have been wonderful if it was toned down, it looked like a golden fish scales.
I'm surprised a little at Daniel's win just because it was a bit of a boring dress. I think that this just reiterates the fact that he is a really talented designer as far as construction goes. To have something simple with certain detailing made really well will always be in style.
I'd love to see him win this whole thing but can't lie about my love for Santino's FW collection.
I wish Kara had done a dress similar to her actual FW line...she could have pulled a win, or at least a spot in FW had she really let herself shine. I'm glad she got to show at FW though and wish amazing things for her future.
Now I gotta think about a snarky recap for my blog...lol
i knew that chloe, daniel and santino would get into the top three, but i was really hoping that since daniel and chloe's dresses were a bit boring that santino was a shoo-in, but you know? i'm looking foward to the fashion week episodes and seeing santino's gorgeous collection on the runway and thus, a win. (i did say that santino - regardles of his demeanor - was going to win since day one. i still believe it.)
i was so disappointed in kara this week. after seeing her decoy collection, i can't believe she didn't make one of those kimono dresses. i have no idea where that black dress came from. it only secured santino's postion in the top 3. his was ridiculous and nina was more than gracious in saying it would make a great cover. (well, maybe from the waist up.) however, i too thought santino was going to win this thing from week 1, so ... overall, a crazy episode (surprise cocktail party anyone!?) yet sort of anti-climactic.
I am just glad Chloe made it. I literally yelled 'NOOOOOO!' when Heidi addressed Kara first - right before she said "I'm sorry." I too was surprised at Kara and Daniel's response, especially considering their wholehearted smakdown of Santino and the Makeover fiasco during interviews.
I wasnt shocked ath their reaction - surprised though. After all they were put through - and seeing people they liked being cut - I can see them being annoyed she wasnt sure she wanted it. What their point was is the people that want it deserve it. I can see where they came from. I love Chloe but that would have pissed me off too.
I loved last night's episode. However...I think it was a little odd to first say "Okay, this dress is representative of your line." and then say "Oh, by the way, Iman's judging the runway and will wear the winning design." Isn't that a conflict of interest? So your design has to emulate your line AND be feasible for Iman to wear?? I didn't find that to be very fair. I think the Iman dress should have been last week - that way whomever had immunity would have been driven to kick butt and not be complacent.
I thought it was AWFUL that they asked the designers who should go home. It was a cheap ploy to make good tv and just resulted in hurt feelings. However...they all answered the question with such class and made sure that the person they fingered was complimented in some way.
But I actually really liked Santino's dress as well as Daniel's. Kara's wasn't as finished and it showed. And as much as I love Chloe and her style, what did she expect her fellow designers to say after her diatribe about not being sure she wanted it anymore????
I thought it interesting that the Season 1 designers pretty much told them that playing it safe was not a good move, yet it seems like they did that-well, except for the S-man. I was surprised that Santino picked Chloe to be out because he's always snarking about Kara and that whole thing disappointed me-although I am trying to think that they were choosing her because she had expressed her doubts.
I also was a little confused-the design was supposed to reflect their collection, yet it was also for Iman in a sense-("it would make a great cover"). Not sure that was fair?
Iman looked great in the dress.
Curious as to why Austin and not Wendy (or both) at the party? I can guess but...
Michael Kors loves Daniel
Kara did herself proud at fashion week-loved the dress she was wearing on the runway! Kara-why don't YOU come back next season, LOL!!
I think Santino may have saved himself at FW but it's hard to tell. I think it's between him and Daniel.
I think Santino is going to have a nervous breakdown.
I think they should do something on the show about Kara's collection--at least talk about it briefly on the reunion show or something. But they won't. Oh, well.
One of the real ironies from this episode that I can't get out of my head is how Fern Mallis stresses to the designers how important it is to be nice, how you have to get over yourself and your attitude. Tim backs this up on his podcast.
And yet, in reality TV world, it doesn't quite work that way. And apparently not in fashion either. A unique voice, or point of view, or whatever you want to call it seems much more important than being nice. Santino certainly proved that throughout this season.
justin I agree that it looked like a fish! Very memaidish...if he'd used to fabric differently it might have translated better.
jrt, fine...you can have your brain back...lol I like Santino's so much because I've always been attracted to the ethereal goddess look. I really loved Kara's and Daniel's though too.
Now for the Chloe backlash. We have three designers not sleeping, barely eating and working their tooties off for this opportunity. I think Chloe was very flippant in saying "I'm not sure if I want this." There are 12 other designers who would be more then happy to trade with you.
I think that she was feeling the stress when she said it, and it wasn't something that she wholeheartedly meant, but I can see how the other three almost felt it was a slap in the face. I wasn't surprised by what they said on the runway after her comments.
I realized that Kara was the one eliminated from the moment Heidi announced the challenge of making a designer gown that would represent their line at this year's NY Fall Fashion shows. If you can recall last week's posting, Kara's line really didn't have too many outfits that were gown-like.
I'm shocked at how Daniel and Kara turned on Chloe during the judging. At this point, I can say that both of them realized that Chloe's their competition and they wanted her gone, because for weeks now, they've all said that "Santino can't cut. Santino can't sew. Santino doesn't know how to dress for women." He's a punk and I'm pissed off that the judges basically agreed with what they think Santino thinks about them..."that they're stupid, don't see his vision and he won't listen to them" and it got him into the Final 3. Santino played the "game" very well, because his dress last night made that model looked dumpy.
Also, Santino actually thought that he WON the challenge over Daniel!! Hilarious. Absolutely Hilarious.
I'm sorry, I disliked Santino's gown very much. I thought all the paillettes glued as they were made Heather look extremely wide through the hips (and you know Heather is hardly wide!). I'm also not fond of his excessive use of spray adhesive in his fashion.
That said, I thought his collection was lovely at Fashion Week and I'm amazed he was able to show restraint with the glue.
I personally think Daniel is the winner. Not only because I have loved him all along, but didn't you pick up on a "celebrity media made-over Daniel" vibe when they showed him 5 months later fitting Iman??? He looked so different!!
I thought Santino's gown started off great-I loved it till about halfway through. Then he started the adding and that did it! And I also think Daniels would have been much better in a different fabric or color-it was hard to tell if there was any detail.
I understand now (after Tim's Take) that the challenge was all about their collection and that Iman was going to wear the winner-that they were not supposed to design for her, so that makes it a little different IMO. I think that Chloe was tired, too, and they were all stressed so who knows where everyone was coming from at that point. I agree so much, TBone-I am hoping to hear some explanation of how Santino made it to FW because he's made every mistake someone else has been auffed for, he seems to be not nice-wouldn't even help Kara move her form? Come on, buddy, she didn't rat you out and say your garment totally fell apart last week. I doubt we'll ever know, though....
I feel like everyone picking Chloe to leave was a combination of 2 things: first, her comment that she doesn't think she wants it anymore, and second, I think that Daniel and Kara felt like if Santino made it to FW, he would be easier to beat than Chloe.
jrt, I agree with what you said about Daniel. Chic simplicity with well-thought detailing will always be in style. I find him reminiscent of Calvin Klein. Plus, he's so young! There's so much room to grow and try new things.
I'm having mixed feelings about Santino being at FW. Should he have been aufed a long time ago? Probably. Was his FW Collection good? Yes. Did it not look like his usual work? Overall it looked like it wasn't made by the Santino we know.
That all leaves me confused as a whole. His collection was beautiful (albeit a bit trend-dated) but did he really deserve to be in the top three or even win at this point?
That being said, I would LOVE to see Daniel win. I think he's shown the most consistency and has been one of my faves since the Hilton Challenge.
First of all, I think the main prize of PR is getting a runway show at Fashion Week so I think all four designers are winners!
Howerver, I thought the dresses were all terrible last night! I almost liked Santino's and actually thought Iman would choose it (it would have been a beautiful color on her) but it really just wasn't flattering and it would have looked like a costume on the red carpet (and I agree that it made the model's hips look huge). Daniel's dress was just BORING but I guess it at least looked OK so it deserved to win. I was so dissapointed with Chloe; that dress was just awful. But at least it looked a little bit like her style, unlike Kara's. I thought both Kara's and Chloe's dresses were boring and ill-fitting so I wasn't sure who would go. But since Kara's didn't represent her style it makes sense that she was out.
The producers are getting better at tricking us. Early in the episode I thought, "well, they're making a big deal about Kara not knowing anything about evening wear so obviously she's NOT out." Oh, well.
I liked the challenge. They've already had a challenge where they design for a specific client so I liked the idea that in this one they design before knowing who the client is. But I'm starting to feel sorry for these celebrities who are obligated to choose from a bunch of crappy garments. OK, so she wore it to the least important red carpet event she could find, but still...
AJ, I couldn't have said it better. When I saw Santino's FW collection, I thought "It can't have been made by him! I actually like it." I think several of the other designers who were out would have had interesting collections(cough *Andrae* cough). I found it interesting in Tim's Q&A that he says there is a difference in what you see on TV vs. what's in person and so I'm thinking that some of the fine detail of Daniels work might not be as easy to see on the computer or TV. Interesting that MK used the same word-underwhelmed-in both finales. Can't wait for the reunion show!!
I didn't care for this challenge. I've been discussing this on my livejournal, and I really think that the designers should have had more time. I realize that a time crunch and stress make for good TV, and sometimes really inspired design, but for a design that a collection could be built around, I think more than an hour or so of planning should have been given to that process. Always creating things on the spur of the moment creates a sameness and lack of depth.
Personally, I would have loved to see the designers make two trips to Mood, one to check out the fabrics, time in between to reflect on what they'd seen, and then a second visit to make the purchase.
Oh, and I wasn't as upset about everyone picking Chloe to be off as I was about asking the designers that question in the first place. I don't know what the point was, other than to hurt people's feelings. The reason I watch PR is because it is NOT The Apprentice.
My lengthy earlier content got eaten, so I'll just ask whether I'm the only one who thought that when Heidi Klum came out to greet the designers before the runway judging, she looked a little bit like Deborah Harry (20 years ago, of course). I mentioned it to my daughter, but, of course, she just said, "Who's Debbie Harry?"
I was really disappointed to see kara go, especially since I know what a fantastic line she created for fashion week and that now it will never even be acknowledged on the show. Looking back, her designs have been consistently beautiful and her clothes are the type that I would be most likely to wear. I hope she gets due credit for her excellent fashion week line.
I was also a little surprised that the other designers called out chloe but she really brought it on herself by saying she wasn't sure she wanted it. If you're not sure, you have no business being there when so many designers would kill to be at fashion week! I think her lack of passion really showed in her line, and its a shame that she got the spot.
loog, I agree; what would have happened if they had just said, "I don't want to answer that question"? Nothing. For the most part I think the contestants should do what is asked of them but in this case I think the polite thing to do would have been to refuse. I know, as Santino has pointed out, it is not a popularity contest, but that doesn't mean you should be rude for no reason. Having said that, I also agree with jrt that Chloe needed that kick in the pants.
I agree with some of the other posts that an hour to design a dress that is going to represent your entire collection that you are going to have months to work on seems strange. I'm assuming, though, that the designers have been thinking about their collections since before they were even chosen to be on the show. I would be interested to know how much thought they had already put into the collections before this episode. They all really appeared to be starting with nothing, which is surprising.
i'll be honest - i didn't even care to watch last night.
but, i think it's pretty obvious why they all chose chloe to be out, the same reason chloe chose santino... she's their biggest competition. chloe might not have been the biggest winner all season, but she is the one who has ALWAYS been the "she'll make it to fashion week" girl. santino we wondered about, daniel didn't shine til later... chloe was hot from day one.
I agree with asiangirl; I like the guest judges (Anne Slowey wasn't really a guest judge because she was just filling in for Nina). They are almost always directly associated with the challenge and add an outside opinion that brings in an element of unpredictability you find in the real world. Sure, some of them have bad taste but that's life.
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I'm not surprised. Kara only used her model during Fashion Week while the others had extra PR girls. I wished she would have show them her personal style infused with the garment because she could've been saved. Chloe's dress was just so-so. Great color, bad seams. I thought Santino's gown could have been wonderful if it was toned down, it looked like a golden fish scales.
I'm surprised a little at Daniel's win just because it was a bit of a boring dress. I think that this just reiterates the fact that he is a really talented designer as far as construction goes. To have something simple with certain detailing made really well will always be in style.
I'd love to see him win this whole thing but can't lie about my love for Santino's FW collection.
I wish Kara had done a dress similar to her actual FW line...she could have pulled a win, or at least a spot in FW had she really let herself shine. I'm glad she got to show at FW though and wish amazing things for her future.
Now I gotta think about a snarky recap for my blog...lol
And I thought Kara's collection at Fashion week was the best. I'm glad she got to show at Fashion Week...she really changed my mind about her.
i knew that chloe, daniel and santino would get into the top three, but i was really hoping that since daniel and chloe's dresses were a bit boring that santino was a shoo-in, but you know? i'm looking foward to the fashion week episodes and seeing santino's gorgeous collection on the runway and thus, a win. (i did say that santino - regardles of his demeanor - was going to win since day one. i still believe it.)
I thought the designs were a bit disappointing across the board tonight. Chloe, Kara, and DV just trying to sneak in and Santino being Santino.
The biggest surprise to me was DV and Kara fingering Chloe at the end. I'm still scratching my head on that one.
i was so disappointed in kara this week. after seeing her decoy collection, i can't believe she didn't make one of those kimono dresses. i have no idea where that black dress came from. it only secured santino's postion in the top 3. his was ridiculous and nina was more than gracious in saying it would make a great cover. (well, maybe from the waist up.)
however, i too thought santino was going to win this thing from week 1, so ...
overall, a crazy episode (surprise cocktail party anyone!?) yet sort of anti-climactic.
Is this Iman in Daniel's dress? The photo is from one of the posts down below on the blog.
You know, I didn't even realize until 10:15 that Project Runway was on.
I guess I totally don't care now that Nick is gone.
I am just glad Chloe made it. I literally yelled 'NOOOOOO!' when Heidi addressed Kara first - right before she said "I'm sorry." I too was surprised at Kara and Daniel's response, especially considering their wholehearted smakdown of Santino and the Makeover fiasco during interviews.
I wasnt shocked ath their reaction - surprised though.
After all they were put through - and seeing people they liked being cut - I can see them being annoyed she wasnt sure she wanted it. What their point was is the people that want it deserve it. I can see where they came from. I love Chloe but that would have pissed me off too.
I loved last night's episode. However...I think it was a little odd to first say "Okay, this dress is representative of your line." and then say "Oh, by the way, Iman's judging the runway and will wear the winning design." Isn't that a conflict of interest? So your design has to emulate your line AND be feasible for Iman to wear?? I didn't find that to be very fair. I think the Iman dress should have been last week - that way whomever had immunity would have been driven to kick butt and not be complacent.
I thought it was AWFUL that they asked the designers who should go home. It was a cheap ploy to make good tv and just resulted in hurt feelings. However...they all answered the question with such class and made sure that the person they fingered was complimented in some way.
But I actually really liked Santino's dress as well as Daniel's. Kara's wasn't as finished and it showed. And as much as I love Chloe and her style, what did she expect her fellow designers to say after her diatribe about not being sure she wanted it anymore????
I thought it interesting that the Season 1 designers pretty much told them that playing it safe was not a good move, yet it seems like they did that-well, except for the S-man. I was surprised that Santino picked Chloe to be out because he's always snarking about Kara and that whole thing disappointed me-although I am trying to think that they were choosing her because she had expressed her doubts.
I also was a little confused-the design was supposed to reflect their collection, yet it was also for Iman in a sense-("it would make a great cover"). Not sure that was fair?
Iman looked great in the dress.
Curious as to why Austin and not Wendy (or both) at the party? I can guess but...
Michael Kors loves Daniel
Kara did herself proud at fashion week-loved the dress she was wearing on the runway! Kara-why don't YOU come back next season, LOL!!
I think Santino may have saved himself at FW but it's hard to tell. I think it's between him and Daniel.
I think Santino is going to have a nervous breakdown.
I think they should do something on the show about Kara's collection--at least talk about it briefly on the reunion show or something. But they won't. Oh, well.
One of the real ironies from this episode that I can't get out of my head is how Fern Mallis stresses to the designers how important it is to be nice, how you have to get over yourself and your attitude. Tim backs this up on his podcast.
And yet, in reality TV world, it doesn't quite work that way. And apparently not in fashion either. A unique voice, or point of view, or whatever you want to call it seems much more important than being nice. Santino certainly proved that throughout this season.
justin I agree that it looked like a fish! Very memaidish...if he'd used to fabric differently it might have translated better.
jrt, fine...you can have your brain back...lol I like Santino's so much because I've always been attracted to the ethereal goddess look. I really loved Kara's and Daniel's though too.
Now for the Chloe backlash. We have three designers not sleeping, barely eating and working their tooties off for this opportunity. I think Chloe was very flippant in saying "I'm not sure if I want this." There are 12 other designers who would be more then happy to trade with you.
I think that she was feeling the stress when she said it, and it wasn't something that she wholeheartedly meant, but I can see how the other three almost felt it was a slap in the face. I wasn't surprised by what they said on the runway after her comments.
I realized that Kara was the one eliminated from the moment Heidi announced the challenge of making a designer gown that would represent their line at this year's NY Fall Fashion shows. If you can recall last week's posting, Kara's line really didn't have too many outfits that were gown-like.
I'm shocked at how Daniel and Kara turned on Chloe during the judging. At this point, I can say that both of them realized that Chloe's their competition and they wanted her gone, because for weeks now, they've all said that "Santino can't cut. Santino can't sew. Santino doesn't know how to dress for women." He's a punk and I'm pissed off that the judges basically agreed with what they think Santino thinks about them..."that they're stupid, don't see his vision and he won't listen to them" and it got him into the Final 3. Santino played the "game" very well, because his dress last night made that model looked dumpy.
Also, Santino actually thought that he WON the challenge over Daniel!! Hilarious. Absolutely Hilarious.
I'm sorry, I disliked Santino's gown very much. I thought all the
paillettes glued as they were made Heather look extremely wide through the hips (and you know Heather is hardly wide!). I'm also not fond of his excessive use of spray adhesive in his fashion.
That said, I thought his collection was lovely at Fashion Week and I'm amazed he was able to show restraint with the glue.
I personally think Daniel is the winner. Not only because I have loved him all along, but didn't you pick up on a "celebrity media made-over Daniel" vibe when they showed him 5 months later fitting Iman??? He looked so different!!
I thought Santino's gown started off great-I loved it till about halfway through. Then he started the adding and that did it! And I also think Daniels would have been much better in a different fabric or color-it was hard to tell if there was any detail.
I understand now (after Tim's Take) that the challenge was all about their collection and that Iman was going to wear the winner-that they were not supposed to design for her, so that makes it a little different IMO. I think that Chloe was tired, too, and they were all stressed so who knows where everyone was coming from at that point. I agree so much, TBone-I am hoping to hear some explanation of how Santino made it to FW because he's made every mistake someone else has been auffed for, he seems to be not nice-wouldn't even help Kara move her form? Come on, buddy, she didn't rat you out and say your garment totally fell apart last week. I doubt we'll ever know, though....
I feel like everyone picking Chloe to leave was a combination of 2 things: first, her comment that she doesn't think she wants it anymore, and second, I think that Daniel and Kara felt like if Santino made it to FW, he would be easier to beat than Chloe.
jrt, I agree with what you said about Daniel. Chic simplicity with well-thought detailing will always be in style. I find him reminiscent of Calvin Klein. Plus, he's so young! There's so much room to grow and try new things.
I'm having mixed feelings about Santino being at FW. Should he have been aufed a long time ago? Probably. Was his FW Collection good? Yes. Did it not look like his usual work? Overall it looked like it wasn't made by the Santino we know.
That all leaves me confused as a whole. His collection was beautiful (albeit a bit trend-dated) but did he really deserve to be in the top three or even win at this point?
That being said, I would LOVE to see Daniel win. I think he's shown the most consistency and has been one of my faves since the Hilton Challenge.
First of all, I think the main prize of PR is getting a runway show at Fashion Week so I think all four designers are winners!
Howerver, I thought the dresses were all terrible last night! I almost liked Santino's and actually thought Iman would choose it (it would have been a beautiful color on her) but it really just wasn't flattering and it would have looked like a costume on the red carpet (and I agree that it made the model's hips look huge). Daniel's dress was just BORING but I guess it at least looked OK so it deserved to win. I was so dissapointed with Chloe; that dress was just awful. But at least it looked a little bit like her style, unlike Kara's. I thought both Kara's and Chloe's dresses were boring and ill-fitting so I wasn't sure who would go. But since Kara's didn't represent her style it makes sense that she was out.
The producers are getting better at tricking us. Early in the episode I thought, "well, they're making a big deal about Kara not knowing anything about evening wear so obviously she's NOT out." Oh, well.
I liked the challenge. They've already had a challenge where they design for a specific client so I liked the idea that in this one they design before knowing who the client is. But I'm starting to feel sorry for these celebrities who are obligated to choose from a bunch of crappy garments. OK, so she wore it to the least important red carpet event she could find, but still...
AJ, I couldn't have said it better. When I saw Santino's FW collection, I thought "It can't have been made by him! I actually like it." I think several of the other designers who were out would have had interesting collections(cough *Andrae* cough). I found it interesting in Tim's Q&A that he says there is a difference in what you see on TV vs. what's in person and so I'm thinking that some of the fine detail of Daniels work might not be as easy to see on the computer or TV. Interesting that MK used the same word-underwhelmed-in both finales. Can't wait for the reunion show!!
I didn't care for this challenge. I've been discussing this on my livejournal, and I really think that the designers should have had more time. I realize that a time crunch and stress make for good TV, and sometimes really inspired design, but for a design that a collection could be built around, I think more than an hour or so of planning should have been given to that process. Always creating things on the spur of the moment creates a sameness and lack of depth.
Personally, I would have loved to see the designers make two trips to Mood, one to check out the fabrics, time in between to reflect on what they'd seen, and then a second visit to make the purchase.
Oh, and I wasn't as upset about everyone picking Chloe to be off as I was about asking the designers that question in the first place. I don't know what the point was, other than to hurt people's feelings. The reason I watch PR is because it is NOT The Apprentice.
My lengthy earlier content got eaten, so I'll just ask whether I'm the only one who thought that when Heidi Klum came out to greet the designers before the runway judging, she looked a little bit like Deborah Harry (20 years ago, of course). I mentioned it to my daughter, but, of course, she just said, "Who's Debbie Harry?"
I was really disappointed to see kara go, especially since I know what a fantastic line she created for fashion week and that now it will never even be acknowledged on the show. Looking back, her designs have been consistently beautiful and her clothes are the type that I would be most likely to wear. I hope she gets due credit for her excellent fashion week line.
I was also a little surprised that the other designers called out chloe but she really brought it on herself by saying she wasn't sure she wanted it. If you're not sure, you have no business being there when so many designers would kill to be at fashion week! I think her lack of passion really showed in her line, and its a shame that she got the spot.
loog, I agree; what would have happened if they had just said, "I don't want to answer that question"? Nothing. For the most part I think the contestants should do what is asked of them but in this case I think the polite thing to do would have been to refuse. I know, as Santino has pointed out, it is not a popularity contest, but that doesn't mean you should be rude for no reason. Having said that, I also agree with jrt that Chloe needed that kick in the pants.
I agree with some of the other posts that an hour to design a dress that is going to represent your entire collection that you are going to have months to work on seems strange. I'm assuming, though, that the designers have been thinking about their collections since before they were even chosen to be on the show. I would be interested to know how much thought they had already put into the collections before this episode. They all really appeared to be starting with nothing, which is surprising.
i'll be honest - i didn't even care to watch last night.
but, i think it's pretty obvious why they all chose chloe to be out, the same reason chloe chose santino... she's their biggest competition. chloe might not have been the biggest winner all season, but she is the one who has ALWAYS been the "she'll make it to fashion week" girl. santino we wondered about, daniel didn't shine til later... chloe was hot from day one.
I agree with asiangirl; I like the guest judges (Anne Slowey wasn't really a guest judge because she was just filling in for Nina). They are almost always directly associated with the challenge and add an outside opinion that brings in an element of unpredictability you find in the real world. Sure, some of them have bad taste but that's life.
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